tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8535237502203989352.post2578696272144224609..comments2024-03-20T00:16:36.264-07:00Comments on 2nd Sex: Counterfeit Lindens - YOU take the risk.Lillie Yifuhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/10647849826458298630noreply@blogger.comBlogger7125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8535237502203989352.post-26161045991268068302008-10-15T19:11:00.000-07:002008-10-15T19:11:00.000-07:00You should consider, selling the client an item wh...You should consider, selling the client an item which can be redeemed for rendered services. They would purchase a prim which would be no copy no mod and transferable, which would contain a note or other info pertaining to the type and duration of services to be performed. The escort would then sell the client this object,which would be returned prior to rendering of services. This would create a transaction record showing lindens were paid and a tangible object was obtained by the client.Zed Essexhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15999904958780928141noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8535237502203989352.post-44381023290559417802007-10-20T15:51:00.000-07:002007-10-20T15:51:00.000-07:00When one's earns Lindens by a right click rather t...When one's earns Lindens by a right click rather than through a vendor script, it always shows up as a gift.<BR/><BR/>Does anyone think it would make a difference if there was an actual exchange of some sort? A purchase through some sort of script where a purchase of a certain amount returned an actual item. If this was done, the payments would not show up as a "gift' and since something would end if being passed to an inventory, it would be a tangible good.<BR/><BR/>As I said in my first post, I thank you for sharing this and Lillie for passing along your story. I'm so happy that you, Brie are successful enough to come through this OK. It would take me two to three weeks to get in the black again!<BR/><BR/>Can you imagine this happening to another group that provides a service in SL-- Electric Sheep as an example, would have their consulting services dismissed as "just a gift" even though that is what it would say on the transaction history?Unknownhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17049508541627774582noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8535237502203989352.post-85005284698220146322007-10-20T14:22:00.000-07:002007-10-20T14:22:00.000-07:00This has been one hell of a week, for all involved...This has been one hell of a week, for all involved. the bottom line, we may never get our lindens back. BUT if awareness can be raised and we can become Tangible services, then rest assured, we wont rest till all are aware.<BR/><BR/>Muchos love...and thanks fopr all support around this!!!<BR/><BR/>GMachttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01874580618863118650noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8535237502203989352.post-86973867682459555222007-10-20T10:26:00.000-07:002007-10-20T10:26:00.000-07:00I spoke at length to the lindens, and was told tha...I spoke at length to the lindens, and was told that due to the fact every transaction he made me was constituted a gift...it was all subject to be seized. Basically, I have no idea how the lindens were fraudulent. I provided a service, one which I plainly have my rates ect posted in numerous places. You can google my name and see where I have done RL newspaper/magazine articles. I spent 2 years as a SL escort to build a solid reputation, I have re-invested millions of linden in land, clothing, ect to build my business and my avatar up to the point I am now. Basically the lindens have made me feel like the land tier I pay, the money I have reinvested is nothing to them due to the fact I provide a service that does not produce a *tangible good*. I am not a new player that swept into SL and made a splash, I am a player that has spent years building the status I now enjoy. I have since that note card was created, zeroed out my balance-partly due to money I already had earned, plus some close friends had a fundraiser in my benefit, when all was said and done, I was 28K in the hole. And a couple of excellent clients and some well placed tips righted that. Seems to me though, I keep hearing “you can earn it back"...well guess what...I earned every single linden they took from me. I paid land tiers, bought land for my business, paid advertising expenses. So the money they took was all money I had earned. I am grateful beyond words for all the positive support I have gotten, and I am always in game if anyone has questions they would like to ask. Best of luck to you all, <BR/>**huggs and kisses**<BR/>BrieBrieanne Bomazihttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09151889511569709260noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8535237502203989352.post-43985110995125225212007-10-19T13:55:00.000-07:002007-10-19T13:55:00.000-07:00I am weary of the judgmental attitude that Second ...I am weary of the judgmental attitude that Second Life members are burdened with by essentially being effective role players. A person role plays an escort so well that they can charge a significant wage, so they get punished. <BR/><BR/>If I managed to role play a real estate tycoon well, I get rewarded.<BR/><BR/>Members are members and customers are customers - they should all have rights and due process. Lindens are dollars. <BR/><BR/>I suggest someone role play a Lawyer well enough to shake the trees.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8535237502203989352.post-2820278381344856002007-10-18T16:41:00.000-07:002007-10-18T16:41:00.000-07:00Not me, another girlI just want to know.....How ca...Not me, another girl<BR/><BR/><BR/>I just want to know.....<BR/><BR/><BR/>How can I tell a fake Linden?<BR/><BR/>Look for watermarks? Everyone in China has a light that does that.<BR/><BR/>But for Linden?Lillie Yifuhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10647849826458298630noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8535237502203989352.post-27269648468740186752007-10-18T14:24:00.000-07:002007-10-18T14:24:00.000-07:00Oh my God! How terrible! Thank you so much for sh...Oh my God! How terrible! <BR/><BR/>Thank you so much for sharing this and Lillie for passing it along! Is there any way that the Linden's will reduce the amount that it says that you owe?<BR/><BR/>In a lot of ways, we are consultants. Here is something I have been thinking of a lot lately. Because of SL issues, almost all of the clothing stores that I deal with have switched to a no transfer model. To me, this means that once you have purchased something like that, it is no longer an asset as there is no possibility for resale. There really isn't a difference between the two; both have no value. In our case, it's a real human being on the other end of a computer that has reached out to him or her. In the case of a no transfer item, one gets something that on some levels is more lasting, but still can not be passed on. A dress or a chat log-- at least the chat log could be passed on! Perhaps we need to start selling trinkets at certain prices so they could be repossessed in cases like this.<BR/><BR/>This needs to be handled better by the Linden's. If not just for escorts, for all businesses offer consulting services that take payment in Lindens. <BR/><BR/>I wish I could help. Perhaps your story could be on a notecard at some of the escort places with a tip jar next to it. So many of us know that Escort Island has a very high level of integrity so many would believe you.<BR/><BR/>Best of luck!Unknownhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17049508541627774582noreply@blogger.com